{"id":9049,"date":"2014-07-16T21:32:46","date_gmt":"2014-07-16T13:32:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/?p=9049"},"modified":"2014-07-16T23:44:48","modified_gmt":"2014-07-16T15:44:48","slug":"%e4%bd%9c%e4%b8%ba10%e7%ba%a7%e8%bd%a6%e7%9a%84%e9%85%8b%e9%95%bf","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/?p=9049","title":{"rendered":"\u4f5c\u4e3a10\u7ea7\u8f66\u7684\u914b\u957f"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Source:http:\/\/ftr.wot-news.com\/2014\/07\/16\/the-chieftain-as-tier-10\/<br \/>\n\u6765\u6e90\u2197<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hello everyone,<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5927\u5bb6\u568e\uff0c\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>so, I guess you\u2019ve already heard the news, FV215b is considered to be replaced by the Chieftain, at least that\u2019s how Storm wrote it yesterday. However, this info (or speculations about it) is much older. The first time I heard about the plan to put the Chieftain in some form on tier 10 was as early as December 2012. I was on a meeting of the Czech community and Tuccy (back then still just a community organizer or whatever the title was) was talking about the changes to the trees. I took notes in my cellphone of what he was saying (I still have them, he for example mentioned the second French line, little did we know\u2026) and one of the things he said is that the Chieftain would become the British tier 10 heavy tank. The next day, I wrote it on the forums (back then, there was no FTR) and the post got immediately deleted (this was one of the impulses that convinced me I need a platform of my own, so Wargaming can\u2019t come and purge inconvenient info by the way). Next mention about it was from February 2013 and the result was \u201cyea, we thought about that, not in immediate future\u201d \u2013 and that was it.<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u6211\u60f3\u5404\u4f4d\u4e5f\u90fd\u770b\u8fc7\u65b0\u95fb\u4e86\uff0cFV215b\u8981\u88ab\u914b\u957f\u6362\u4e0b\u53bb\u4e86\uff0c\u81f3\u5c11Storm\u6628\u5929\u662f\u8fd9\u4e48\u8bf4\u7684\u3002\u7136\u800c\u8fd9\u4e2a\u4fe1\u606f\uff08\u6216\u8005\u662f\u5173\u4e8e\u5b83\u7684\u63a8\u6d4b\uff09\u5df2\u7ecf\u6709\u70b9\u5e74\u5934\u4e86\u3002\u6211\u7b2c\u4e00\u6b21\u542c\u8bf4\u8981\u628a\u914b\u957f\u505a\u621010\u7ea7\u8f66\u8fd8\u662f\u57282012\u5e74\u768412\u6708\u7684\u65f6\u5019\u3002\u90a3\u4e2a\u65f6\u5019\u6211\u5728\u5f00\u6377\u514b\u7684\u793e\u7fa4\u4f1a\u8bae\uff0cTuccy\uff08\u4ed6\u90a3\u4e2a\u65f6\u5019\u53ea\u662f\u4e2a\u793e\u7fa4\u7ec4\u7ec7\u8005\u554a\u4ec0\u4e48\u7684\uff09\u5c31\u5728\u8ba8\u8bba\u8981\u5bf9\u79d1\u6280\u6811\u505a\u51fa\u6539\u52a8\u4e86\u3002\u6211\u5728\u624b\u673a\u91cc\u5934\u8bb0\u4e0b\u4e86\u4ed6\u6240\u8bf4\u7684\u4e1c\u897f\uff08\u6211\u73b0\u5728\u4f9d\u7136\u8fd8\u7559\u7740\uff0c\u4ed6\u90a3\u4e2a\u65f6\u5019\u8fd8\u8bf4\u4e86\u7b2c\u4e8c\u6761\u6cd5\u56fd\u7ebf\uff0c\u53ea\u6709\u5f88\u5c11\u4e00\u90e8\u5206\u4eba\u77e5\u9053\uff09\uff0c\u4ed6\u8fd8\u8bf4\u4e86\u4e00\u4ef6\u4e8b\u5c31\u662f\u914b\u957f\u4f1a\u4f5c\u4e3a\u82f1\u56fd\u768410\u7ea7\u91cd\u5766\u51fa\u73b0\u3002\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5929\uff0c\u6211\u5c31\u5728\u8bba\u575b\u4e0a\u53d1\u4e86\u8fd9\u4e9b\u73a9\u610f\uff08\u90a3\u4e2a\u65f6\u5019\u8fd8\u6ca1\u6709FTR\u535a\u5ba2\uff09\u7136\u540e\u5e16\u5b50\u88ab\u79d2\u5220\u4e86\uff08\u8fd9\u4e5f\u662f\u6211\u5f53\u521d\u5efa\u7acb\u535a\u5ba2\u7684\u51b2\u52a8\u4e4b\u4ee5\uff0c\u8fd9\u6837\u6211\u5c31\u6709\u4e00\u4e2a\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u5e73\u53f0\u53ef\u4ee5\u907f\u514dWG\u201c\u51c0\u5316\u201d\u4ed6\u4eec\u4e0d\u60f3\u88ab\u4eba\u770b\u5230\u7684\u6d88\u606f\uff09\u3002\u4e0b\u4e00\u6b21\u8bf4\u5230\u5b83\u5c31\u662f\u57282013\u5e74\u76842\u6708\u4e86\uff0c\u7ed3\u679c\u662f\u201c\u662f\u5566\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u8003\u8651\u8fc7\uff0c\u4f46\u662f\u8fd1\u671f\u4e0d\u4f1a\u6709\u201d\u2014\u7136\u540e\u5c31\u6ca1\u4e86\u3002\u00a0<!--more--><\/span><\/p>\n<p>I wrote the above for you to understand that the idea is actually very old and that the Chieftain at some point \u201cfell into the same vaporware hole\u201d as the Sturmtiger, which sort of hints at the fact that implementing the Chieftain is problematic. But, Storm mentioned that the change might come around the end of this year, so hopefully that\u2019s settled.<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u4e0a\u9762\u8fd9\u5806\u4e1c\u897f\u662f\u4e3a\u4e86\u544a\u8bc9\u4f60\u8fd9\u4e2a\u60f3\u6cd5\u5176\u5b9e\u5df2\u7ecf\u6709\u5f88\u957f\u65f6\u95f4\u4e86\uff0c\u800c\u914b\u957f\u5728\u67d0\u4e2a\u65f6\u95f4\u70b9\u4e5f\u50cf\u7a81\u51fb\u864e\u4e00\u6837\u201c\u88ab\u4e22\u8fdb\u4e86\u4e00\u4e2a\u5927\u5751\u201d\uff0c\u4e5f\u5c31\u4ece\u4fa7\u9762\u6307\u51fa\u5bfc\u5165\u914b\u957f\u5176\u5b9e\u662f\u6709\u4e00\u4e9b\u95ee\u9898\u7684\u3002\u4f46\u662fStorm\u63d0\u5230\u4e86\u8bf4\u8fd9\u4e2a\u6539\u52a8\u5728\u5e74\u5e95\u4e5f\u8bb8\u5c31\u4f1a\u6709\u4e86\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u5148\u671f\u5f85\u4e00\u4e0b\u5427\u3002\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Which Chieftain?<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u54ea\u4e2a\u914b\u957f\uff1f\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So, now that this is decided, the real question is \u2013 which Chieftain will we see in the game? Originally I thought that there might be like three or four variants to pick from, including the mockups. I was wrong \u2013 there are like fifteen (maybe more) various prototypes and proposals, including the pre-production version. The most likely candidate I would say is the \u201cP6\u2033 prototype, that was mentioned in the past in connection with World of Tanks, simply because it stands physically in Bovington and Wargaming has access to it. This prototype was saved by Bovington from scrapping in 2011 and you can\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.tankmuseum.org\/ixbin\/indexplus?record=ART2909\">read about it here<\/a>.<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u9274\u4e8e\u8981\u6709\u914b\u957f\u8fd9\u4e8b\u5b9a\u4e0b\u6765\u4e86\uff0c\u771f\u6b63\u7684\u95ee\u9898\u5c31\u662f\u2014\u5230\u5e95\u54ea\u4e2a\u914b\u957f\u4f1a\u88ab\u52a0\u5165\u6e38\u620f\uff1f\u6211\u4e00\u5f00\u59cb\u89c9\u5f97\u80fd\u6709\u4e09\u56db\u4e2a\u53ef\u4ee5\u9009\uff08\u8fd8\u5305\u62ec\u6a21\u578b\uff09\u3002\u6211\u9519\u4e86\u3002\u4e00\u5171\u6709\u5927\u7ea615\u4e2a\uff08\u4e5f\u8bb8\u8fd8\u6709\u66f4\u591a\uff09\u914b\u957f\u7684\u5404\u79cd\u539f\u578b\u8f66\u4ee5\u53ca\u5efa\u8bae\u578b\uff0c\u5305\u62ec\u90a3\u4e9b\u9884\u751f\u4ea7\u7248\u7684\u3002\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3a\u6700\u6709\u53ef\u80fd\u7684\u5019\u9009\u8f66\u5e94\u8be5\u662f\u201cP6\u201d\u539f\u578b\u8f66\uff0c\u8fc7\u53bb\u63d0\u5230\u8fc7\uff0c\u4e0eWOT\u6709\u8054\u7cfb\u3002\u539f\u56e0\u5c31\u662f\u5b83\u7684\u786e\u5c31\u5b58\u5728\u5728\u4f2f\u660e\u987f\u535a\u7269\u9986\uff0c\u800cWG\u662f\u53ef\u4ee5\u63a5\u89e6\u5230\u5b83\u7684\u3002\u8fd9\u8f86\u539f\u578b\u8f66\u662f\u4f2f\u660e\u987f\u535a\u7269\u9986\u57282011\u5e74\u628a\u5b83\u4ece\u62c6\u9664\u8fb9\u7f18\u62a2\u56de\u6765\u7684\uff0c\u4f60\u53ef\u4ee5\u5728<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tankmuseum.org\/ixbin\/indexplus?record=ART2909\">\u8fd9\u91cc<\/a><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u8bfb\u5230\u66f4\u591a\u7684\u4fe1\u606f\u3002<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/?attachment_id=9053\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9053\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-9053\" title=\"Eventspage\" src=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/bovtm_new_chieftain.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"828\" height=\"407\" srcset=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/bovtm_new_chieftain.jpg 828w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/bovtm_new_chieftain-600x294.jpg 600w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/bovtm_new_chieftain-500x245.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 828px) 100vw, 828px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This however is by no means the only option. The pre-production Mk.1 was also mentioned as a potential candidate, along with Mk.2 (the first one to see service en masse if I remember correctly)<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u7136\u800c\u8fd9\u5e76\u4e0d\u610f\u5473\u7740\u5c31\u6ca1\u6709\u5176\u5b83\u9009\u62e9\u4e86\u3002\u9884\u751f\u4ea7\u7248\u7684MK.1\u4e5f\u4f5c\u4e3a\u6f5c\u5728\u7684\u5019\u9009\u8f66\u8f86\u88ab\u63d0\u5230\u8fc7\uff0c\u540c\u65f6\u5305\u62ecMK.2\uff08\u6211\u6ca1\u8bb0\u9519\u7684\u8bdd\u662f\u7b2c\u4e00\u8f86\u5927\u6279\u91cf\u670d\u5f79\u7684\uff09<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/?attachment_id=9051\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9051\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-9051\" title=\"Chieftain_Mk_II-2\" src=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/Chieftain_Mk_II-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"543\" height=\"339\" srcset=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/Chieftain_Mk_II-2.jpg 543w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/Chieftain_Mk_II-2-480x300.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 543px) 100vw, 543px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>For example, one of the distinctive Chieftains is the \u201cpike nose\u201d Chieftain mock-up (there are proposed characteristics available for it, found in the Swedish documents).<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u4e3e\u4e2a\u6817\u5b50\uff0c\u6709\u4e00\u8f86\u5f88\u6709\u7279\u8272\u7684\u914b\u957f\u662f\u201c\u5c16\u9f3b\u5b50\u201d\u914b\u957f\u6a21\u578b\u8f66\uff08\u66fe\u7ecf\u627e\u5230\u8fc7\u5b83\u7684\u9884\u5b9a\u7684\u5404\u79cd\u6570\u636e\u53c2\u6570\uff0c\u5728\u4e00\u4e2a\u745e\u5178\u7684\u6587\u732e\u4e2d\u627e\u5230\u8fc7\uff09<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/?attachment_id=9052\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9052\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-9052\" title=\"9H93dol\" src=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/9H93dol.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"645\" height=\"302\" srcset=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/9H93dol.png 645w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/9H93dol-600x280.png 600w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/9H93dol-500x234.png 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 645px) 100vw, 645px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong>This pike nose variant for example weighed 45,3 tons, was proposed with a 700hp Leyland L60 engine with the maximum speed of 41 km\/h. The gun is a \u201c120mm L\/55 gyrostabilized cannon\u201d, but we\u2019ll get to that. Anyway, there are options. These data come from the Swedish reports, found on the Chieftain development in Swedish archives.<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u8fd9\u8f86\u5c16\u9f3b\u5b50\u7684\u53d8\u79cd\u7248\u91cd45.3\u5428\uff0c\u672c\u6765\u8981\u88c5\u7684\u662f700\u9a6c\u529b\u7684Leyland L60\u5f15\u64ce\uff0c\u6781\u901f\u662f41km\/h\u3002\u4e3b\u70ae\u662f\u4e00\u6839\u201c120mm L\/55 \u9640\u87ba\u7a33\u5b9a\u70ae\u201d\uff0c\u8fd9\u4e2a\u540e\u9762\u518d\u8bf4\u5566\u3002\u603b\u4e4b\u5462\uff0c\u662f\u6709\u4f17\u591a\u9009\u62e9\u7684\u3002\u8fd9\u4e9b\u6570\u636e\u662f\u4ece\u745e\u5178\u7684\u5173\u4e8e\u914b\u957f\u7684\u7814\u53d1\u7684\u6587\u732e\u4e2d\u627e\u5230\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Characteristics<br \/>\n\u6570\u636e\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Now, to understand what the problem with the Chieftain in World of Tanks is, you have to realize that the vehicle is still fairly new. Relatively of course. The production vehicles are from mid 60\u2032s, the various early concepts and such are from 1960 or so onwards. The vehicle also fired shots in anger and some technologies from it are still secret, so it\u2019s not like you can just get all the data on it on the internet.<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u73b0\u5728\u8981\u7406\u89e3\u628a\u914b\u957f\u653e\u8fdbWOT\u4e2d\u4f1a\u51fa\u73b0\u4e00\u4e9b\u95ee\u9898\u3002\u4f60\u8981\u77e5\u9053\u8fd9\u8f86\u8f66\u5176\u5b9e\u662f\u633a\u65b0\u7684\uff0c\u5f53\u7136\u662f\u76f8\u5bf9\u6765\u8bf4\u3002\u8fd9\u8f86\u8f66\u662f\u572860\u5e74\u4ee3\u4e2d\u671f\u751f\u4ea7\u7684\uff0c\u6700\u65e9\u7684\u51e0\u4e2a\u6982\u5ff5\u8f66\u90fd\u662f1960\u5e74\u5f00\u59cb\u6216\u8005\u5f80\u540e\u7684\u3002\u8fd9\u8f86\u8f66\u4e5f\u662f\u5f00\u8fc7\u706b\u7684\uff0c\u800c\u8fd9\u8f86\u8f66\u4e0a\u7684\u90e8\u5206\u6280\u672f\u81f3\u4eca\u8fd8\u662f\u673a\u5bc6\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u8fd9\u5e76\u4e0d\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\u80fd\u5728\u7f51\u4e0a\u5c31\u627e\u5230\u7684\u73a9\u610f\u3002\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>A good example of this is the tank armor. If you open western books on the Chieftain (for example \u201cChieftain\u201d by Rob Griffin), the layout is roughly described, but the exact thicknesses of armor of schematics? Nope. I asked around, even at Wargaming and the only \u201cpublished\u201d armor schematic seems to be from a Russian source (for the Mk.1 variant):<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u6709\u4e2a\u5f88\u597d\u7684\u6817\u5b50\u5c31\u662f\u5766\u514b\u7684\u88c5\u7532\u3002\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u6253\u5f00\u897f\u65b9\u5bf9\u4e8e\u914b\u957f\u6240\u505a\u7684\u4e66\u672c\u7684\u8bdd\uff08\u6817\u5982Rob Griffin\u6240\u4f5c\u7684<em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u201c\u914b\u957f\u201d<\/span><\/em>\u4e00\u4e66\uff09\uff0c\u91cc\u9762\u53ea\u662f\u5927\u6982\u7684\u63cf\u8ff0\u4e86\u4e0b\u88c5\u7532\u7684\u5206\u5e03\uff0c\u5177\u4f53\u88c5\u7532\u5206\u5e03\u56fe\uff1f\u6ca1\u6709\u3002\u6211\u56db\u5904\u6253\u542c\u4e86\u4e0b\uff0cWG\u4ee5\u53ca\u552f\u4e00\u7684\u201c\u516c\u5f00\u201d\u7684\u88c5\u7532\u5206\u5e03\u56fe\u90fd\u662f\u6765\u81ea\u4e00\u4e2a\u6bdb\u5b50\u7684\u6d88\u606f\u6e90\uff08\u8fd9\u662fMK.1\u7248\u672c\u7684\uff09\uff1a<\/span><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/?attachment_id=9054\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9054\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-9054\" title=\"ca694645f516\" src=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/ca694645f516.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1067\" height=\"745\" srcset=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/ca694645f516.jpg 1067w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/ca694645f516-600x418.jpg 600w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/ca694645f516-1024x714.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/ca694645f516-429x300.jpg 429w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/ca694645f516-900x628.jpg 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1067px) 100vw, 1067px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Alternatively, it\u2019s possible to tap yet again into Swedish archives \u2013 this one is for the 1961 sloped nose prototype (courtesy of sp15 from US forums), such a schematic exists for the pike nose prototype as well.<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5f53\u7136\uff0c\u8fd9\u91cc\u8fd8\u662f\u53ef\u4ee5\u56de\u5934\u770b\u4e00\u4e0b\u745e\u5178\u7684\u6587\u732e\u2014\u8fd9\u4e00\u4e2a\u662f1961\u5e74\u90a3\u4e2a\u503e\u659c\u9f3b\u5b50\u7248\u539f\u578b\u8f66\u7684\u6587\u732e\uff08\u7531\u7f8e\u670d\u8bba\u575bsp15\u53cb\u60c5\u63d0\u4f9b\uff09\uff0c\u90a3\u4e2a\u5c16\u9f3b\u5b50\u7248\u4e5f\u6709\u8fd9\u4e48\u4e00\u5f20\u56fe<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/?attachment_id=9050\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9050\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-9050\" title=\"YE9zstU\" src=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/YE9zstU.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1248\" height=\"596\" srcset=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/YE9zstU.jpg 1248w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/YE9zstU-600x286.jpg 600w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/YE9zstU-1024x489.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/YE9zstU-500x238.jpg 500w, https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/YE9zstU-900x429.jpg 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1248px) 100vw, 1248px\" \/><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Third source of accurate info is the real life measurement of course. I can tell you straight away that that already happened. Xlucine did in fact measure the P6 prototype armor thickness for Wargaming with an ultrasound device. I am not at liberty to tell you what exactly were the results without his permission, but I think I can disclose two things:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5f53\u7136\u7b2c\u4e09\u79cd\u6700\u53ef\u9760\u7684\u4fe1\u606f\u6765\u6e90\u8fd8\u662f\u76f4\u63a5\u53bb\u91cf\u4e86\u3002\u6211\u8fd9\u91cc\u5c31\u76f4\u8bf4\u4e86\uff0cXlucine\u7684\u786e\u4e3a\u4e86WG\u8dd1\u53bb\u62ff\u4e2a\u8d85\u58f0\u6ce2\u5668\u68b0\u91cf\u8fc7P6\u539f\u578b\u8f66\u7684\u88c5\u7532\u539a\u5ea6\u3002\u6211\u4e0d\u80fd\u5728\u6ca1\u591f\u4ed6\u7684\u5141\u8bb8\u7684\u60c5\u51b5\u4e0b\u544a\u8bc9\u5927\u5bb6\u5177\u4f53\u7ed3\u679c\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\uff0c\u4f46\u662f\u6211\u53ef\u4ee5\u8bf4\u4e24\u4ef6\u4e8b\uff1a<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; the armor of the vehicle was worse than expected and by no means it\u2019s as OP as everyone thinks<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u8fd9\u8f86\u8f66\u7684\u88c5\u7532\u6bd4\u9884\u60f3\u4e2d\u7684\u8981\u5dee\uff0c\u4e5f\u5c31\u4e0d\u4f1a\u50cf\u5927\u5bb6\u6240\u671f\u5f85\u7684\u4e00\u6837\u975e\u5e38OP<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; some parts are practically impossible to measure even for a person skilled with the ultrasound (Xlucine is skilled, but the entire process is actually quite complicated, it\u2019s not like you just press a button), at least without some\u2026 more invasive measures (obviously out of question).<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u90e8\u5206\u96f6\u4ef6\u5c31\u7b97\u662f\u4f7f\u7528\u8d85\u58f0\u6ce2\u7684\u4e13\u4e1a\u4eba\u5458\u4e5f\u6ca1\u6cd5\u6d4b\u91cf\uff08Xlucine\u5f88\u4e13\u4e1a\uff0c\u4f46\u662f\u6574\u4e2a\u8fc7\u7a0b\u5176\u5b9e\u633a\u590d\u6742\u7684\uff0c\u4e0d\u5149\u662f\u6309\u4e2a\u952e\u5c31\u884c\u4e86\uff09\uff0c\u81f3\u5c11\u73b0\u5728\u5728\u4e0d\u8fdb\u884c\u66f4\u52a0\u2026\u2026\u5177\u6709\u4fb5\u7565\u6027\u7684\u6d4b\u91cf\u7684\u60c5\u51b5\u4e0b\u662f\u91cf\u4e0d\u51fa\u7684\uff08\u5f53\u7136\u80af\u5b9a\u6ca1\u620f\uff09\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The same thing applies for the Action X turret by the way \u2013 Xlucine did measure it as well, some parts were not measurable, some parts were\u2026 disappointing, overall it\u2019s not exactly an option for tier 10 medium, I am fairly certain it won\u2019t happen. Anyway, back to Chieftain. The engines are the variants of the Leyland L60 multifuel engine, tuned to various horsepower, if I recall correctly, the 585 horsepower variant was the earliest with the 750 horsepower variant the latest, there was also a a 650 and 700hp variant. It\u2019s hard to say which one will be picked for the ingame vehicle, depends on the type of course, I\u2019d go with the 650hp variant but that really depends on Wargaming (the Mk.4A 650hp engine was used in Mk.1, 2 and 3 Chieftains). The maximum speed of the early Chieftains according to the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.afvhandbooks.com\/\">AFV handbook<\/a>\u00a0was only 40,2 km\/h (with the vehicle weighing 50 tons or so, not bad).<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u540c\u7406\u9002\u7528\u4e8eAction X\u70ae\u5854\u2014Xlucine\u7684\u786e\u6709\u53bb\u91cf\u8fc7\u5b83\uff0c\u90e8\u5206\u96f6\u4ef6\u8fd8\u662f\u91cf\u4e0d\u51fa\uff0c\u90e8\u5206\u96f6\u4ef6\u5f88\u2026\u4f24\u5fc3\u3002\u603b\u4e4b\u8fd9\u8f66\u4e0d\u592a\u9002\u5408\u4f5c\u4e3a10\u7ea7\u4e2d\u5766\u51fa\u73b0\uff0c\u6211\u5f88\u786e\u5b9a\u8fd9\u4e8b\u5df2\u7ecf\u6ca1\u620f\u4e86\u3002\u603b\u4e4b\u56de\u5230\u914b\u957f\u4e0a\u3002\u914b\u957f\u7684\u53d1\u52a8\u673a\u662f\u5404\u79cdLeyland L60\u591a\u71c3\u6599\u53d1\u52a8\u673a\uff0c\u88ab\u8c03\u8282\u6210\u4e86\u5404\u79cd\u9a6c\u529b\u3002\u5982\u679c\u6211\u6ca1\u8bb0\u9519\u7684\u8bdd\uff0c585\u9a6c\u529b\u662f\u6700\u65e9\u7684\u4e00\u4e2a\u7248\u672c\uff0c\u800c\u6700\u540e\u7684\u4e00\u4e2a\u7248\u672c\u5df2\u7ecf\u8fbe\u5230\u4e86750\u9a6c\u529b\u3002\u540c\u65f6\u8fd8\u6709\u8fc7\u4e00\u4e9b650\u4ee5\u53ca700\u9a6c\u529b\u7684\u7248\u672c\u3002\u73b0\u5728\u8fd8\u5f88\u96be\u8bf4\u6e38\u620f\u4e2d\u4f1a\u4f7f\u7528\u54ea\u4e00\u4e2a\uff0c\u5f53\u7136\u8fd9\u8fd8\u662f\u8981\u770b\u5177\u4f53\u60c5\u51b5\u6765\u51b3\u5b9a\u7684\u3002\u6211\u4e2a\u4eba\u8ba4\u4e3a\u662f\u90a3\u4e2a650\u9a6c\u529b\u7684\u7248\u672c\u4f1a\u88ab\u9009\u7528\uff0c\u4f46\u662f\u6700\u540e\u8fd8\u662fWG\u8bf4\u4e86\u7b97\uff08Mk.4A 650\u9a6c\u529b\u53d1\u52a8\u673a\u66fe\u7ecf\u7528\u5728\u914b\u957f\u7684Mk.1,2\u548c3\u4e0a\uff09\u3002\u6839<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u7684\u8bf4\u6cd5\uff0c\u65e9\u671f\u914b\u957f\u7684\u6781\u901f\u53ea\u670940.2km\/h\uff08\u9274\u4e8e\u8fd9\u8f66\u91cd50\u591a\u5428\uff0c\u5176\u5b9e\u8fd9\u901f\u5ea6\u8fd8\u597d\uff09<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Third element of the tank is the firepower \u2013 as you can imagine, the firepower of the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Royal_Ordnance_L11A5\">120mm L11<\/a>\u00a0is brutal. Firing APDS, HESH and HE rounds, its performance in the game will most likely be heavily rebalanced (as in nerfed) compared to its real life performance. Luckily, the gun has a very nice depression on the Chieftain (-10\/+20).<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5766\u514b\u7684\u7b2c\u4e09\u4e2a\u5143\u7d20\u662f\u706b\u529b\u2014\u5982\u4f60\u60f3\u8c61\u7684\u4e00\u6837\uff0c120mm L11\u70ae\u7684\u706b\u529b\u975e\u5e38\u5389\u5bb3\u3002\u5b83\u53ef\u4ee5\u53d1\u5c04APDS\uff0cHESH\u4ee5\u53caHE\u5f39\u3002\u6e38\u620f\u4e2d\u7684\u8868\u73b0\u548c\u73b0\u5b9e\u751f\u6d3b\u4e2d\u76f8\u6bd4\u5e94\u8be5\u662f\u4f1a\u88ab\u91cd\u5ea6\u5e73\u8861\uff08\u4e5f\u5c31\u662f\u5927\u780d\uff09 \u8fc7\u7684\u3002\u5e78\u8fd0\u7684\u662f\uff0c\u8fd9\u6746\u70ae\u5728\u914b\u957f\u4e0a\u7684\u4fef\u89d2\u4e0d\u9519\uff08-10\u00b0\/+20\u00b0\uff09<\/span><\/p>\n<p>In case you are wondering about the 120mm gun performance, there is a memorandum from 1955, mentioning the defeat of plates of following thickness: APDS \u2013 140mm (60 degrees, 2000 yards), HESH \u2013 150mm (60 degrees, 2000 yards).<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u60f3\u77e5\u9053120mm\u5728\u73b0\u5b9e\u751f\u6d3b\u4e2d\u7684\u8868\u73b0\u7684\u8bdd\uff0c\u8fd9\u91cc\u6709\u4e00\u4efd1955\u5e74\u7684\u5907\u5fd8\u5f55\uff0c\u4e0a\u9762\u5199\u4e86\u5728\u4ee5\u4e0b\u8ddd\u79bb\u88ab\u6253\u7a7f\u7684\u94a2\u677f\uff1aAPDS\u2014140mm\uff0860\u5ea6\u503e\u659c\uff0c2000\u7801\uff09\uff0cHESH\u2014150mm\uff0860\u5ea6\u503e\u659c\uff0c2000\u7801\uff09\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>In World of Tanks<br \/>\n\u5728WOT\u4e2d\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So, what do you get if you put the elements written above together? Well\u2026 hard to say. What I think we will get is basically a lighter and overall less armored (even though some spots are crazy thick) version of the T110 with a more powerful gun, definitely not a brawler, more like a sniper. The mobility is hard to predict, my guess (again, just guessing) is that it will be somewhat worse than the one of the T110 to compensate for the hulldown ability (lower frontal plate is the obvious weakspot). Basically a sniper. This is not bad, unless you go rushing on ahead, it could be a really nice tank.<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u6240\u4ee5\u628a\u4e0a\u9762\u8fd9\u4e9b\u73a9\u610f\u62fc\u5728\u4e00\u8d77\u80fd\u5f97\u5230\u4ec0\u4e48\uff1f\u5443\u2026\u5f88\u96be\u8bf4\u5566\u3002\u6211\u80fd\u60f3\u5230\u662f\u4e00\u8f86\u603b\u4f53\u6765\u8bf4\u66f4\u8f7b\u800c\u4e14\u603b\u4f53\u88c5\u7532\u66f4\u8584\uff08\u4f46\u662f\u67d0\u4e9b\u5730\u65b9\u8fd8\u662f\u8d85\u539a\uff09\u7248\u7684T110\uff0c\u4e3b\u70ae\u518d\u66f4\u52a0\u5389\u5bb3\u4e00\u4e9b\u3002\u8fd9\u8f66\u80af\u5b9a\u4e0d\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u8089\u640f\u8f66\u4e86\uff0c\u4f30\u8ba1\u662f\u9ed1\u67aa\u8f66\u3002\u673a\u52a8\u6027\u5f88\u96be\u9884\u6d4b\uff0c\u6211\u7684\u731c\u60f3\u662f\uff08\u91cd\u590d\u4e00\u6b21\uff0c\u8fd9\u53ea\u662f\u6211\u7684\u731c\u60f3\uff09\u662f\u4f1a\u6bd4T110\u5dee\u4e00\u4e9b\u4ee5\u8865\u507f\u5b83\u7684\u4fef\u89d2\u4f18\u52bf\uff08\u9996\u4e0b\u662f\u7edd\u5bf9\u7684\u5f31\u70b9\uff09\u3002\u603b\u4e4b\u62ff\u6765\u6253\u9ed1\u67aa\uff0c\u5176\u5b9e\u8fd8\u633a\u597d\u7684\u3002\u9664\u975e\u4f60\u8001\u662f\u51b2\u5728\u524d\u9762\uff0c\u8fd9\u8f86\u8f66\u5e94\u8be5\u8fd8\u4e0d\u9519\u3002\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>However, its introduction as a tier 10 vehicle means that (the few that there are) Chieftain fans have most likely to give up their fantasies of having an alternative British \u201cChieftain\u201d branch (which would be problematic anyway). Naturally, that\u2019s not such a big loss, considering that after the introduction of the Firefly branch, new British regular tanks will have very, VERY low priority in everything and it\u2019s completely possible that the Firefly branch will be the last British regular branch to be introduced\u2026 well, ever. But the World of Tanks will still be here for years to come (as long as it is profitable), so who knows?<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u7136\u800c\u628a\u914b\u957f\u4f5c\u4e3a10\u7ea7\u8f66\u52a0\u5165\u6e38\u620f\u5c31\u610f\u5473\u7740\uff08\u90a3\u4e00\u5c0f\u64ae\uff09 \u914b\u957f\u7684\u7c89\u4e1d\u57fa\u672c\u5c31\u8981\u653e\u5f03\u4ed6\u4eec\u80fd\u5b50\u554a\u6e38\u620f\u4e2d\u770b\u5230\u53e6\u4e00\u6761\u82f1\u56fd\u201c\u914b\u957f\u201d\u91cd\u5766\u7ebf\u4e86\uff08\u5c31\u7b97\u6709\u4e5f\u662f\u95ee\u9898\u591a\u591a\uff09\u3002\u81ea\u7136\u6765\u8bf4\u8fd9\u4e0d\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\u5927\u635f\u5931\uff0c\u9274\u4e8e\u8424\u706b\u866b\u7ebf\u7684\u52a0\u5165\uff0c\u65b0\u7684\u82f1\u56fd\u8f66\u7684\u4f18\u5148\u7ea7\u5e94\u8be5\u4f1a<strong>\u975e\u5e38\uff0c<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"text-decoration: underline; color: #0000ff;\">\u975e\u5e38\uff0c<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>\u975e\u5e38<\/em>\uff0c\u7684\u4f4e\u3002\u800c\u4e14\u8424\u706b\u866b\u7ebf\u5b8c\u5168\u6709\u53ef\u80fd\u4f1a\u6210\u4e3a\u82f1\u56fd\u7684\u6700\u540e\u4e00\u4e2a\u5e38\u89c4\u7684\u79d1\u6280\u7ebf\u51fa\u73b0\u2026\u2026\u54ce\u3002\u7136\u800cWOT\u8fd8\u6709\u5f88\u957f\u7684\u8def\u8981\u8d70\uff08\u53ea\u8981\u8fd8\u80fd\u8d5a\u94b1\uff09\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u8c01\u77e5\u9053\u5462\uff1f<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Source:http:\/\/ftr.wot-news.com\/2014\/07\/1 &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/?p=9049\">\u7ee7\u7eed\u9605\u8bfb <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[25,21],"class_list":["post-9049","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-world-of-tank","tag-25","tag-21"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9049","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=9049"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9049\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=9049"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=9049"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=9049"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}