{"id":10707,"date":"2014-10-03T07:48:35","date_gmt":"2014-10-02T23:48:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/?p=10707"},"modified":"2014-10-03T08:50:14","modified_gmt":"2014-10-03T00:50:14","slug":"edrard%ef%bc%9a%e4%b8%ba%e4%bb%80%e4%b9%88%e6%b0%b4%e5%b9%b3%e5%88%86%e6%88%bf%e4%b8%8d%e6%98%af%e4%b8%aa%e5%a5%bd%e6%83%b3%e6%b3%95","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/?p=10707","title":{"rendered":"Edrard\uff1a\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u6c34\u5e73\u5206\u623f\u4e0d\u662f\u4e2a\u597d\u60f3\u6cd5"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Source:http:\/\/ftr.wot-news.com\/2014\/10\/02\/edrard-why-is-skill-mm-a-bad-idea\/<br \/>\n\u6765\u6e90\u2197<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Hello everyone,<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5927\u5bb6\u568e\uff0c\u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>today, we\u2019re going to talk about skill MM. Again. I must admit, this topic is not exactly a favourite of mine. But I know someone, who knows a lot about statistics. That\u2019s right,\u00a0<strong>Edrard<\/strong>, the creator of the first efficiency rating \u2013 so he really understands this stuff. I asked him on his opinion and here\u2019s what he had to say on the matter (translated from Russian of course). Enjoy!<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u4eca\u5929\u6211\u4eec\u8981<strong>\u518d<\/strong>\u6765\u8ba8\u8bba\u4e00\u4e0b\u6c34\u5e73\u5206\u623f\u4e86\u3002\u6211\u5fc5\u987b\u8981\u627f\u8ba4\uff0c\u6211\u4e2a\u4eba\u5e76\u4e0d\u559c\u6b22\u8fd9\u4e2a\u8bdd\u9898\u3002\u4f46\u662f\u6211\u77e5\u9053\u6709\u4e2a\u77e5\u9053\u5f88\u591a\u6570\u636e\u7684\u4eba\u3002\u6ca1\u9519\uff0c\u5c31\u662f\u7b2c\u4e00\u7248eff\u6548\u7387\u503c\u7684\u5236\u4f5c\u8005\uff0c<strong>Edrard<\/strong>.\u6240\u4ee5\u4ed6\u5bf9\u8fd9\u4e2a\u771f\u7684\u5f88\u4e86\u89e3\u3002\u6211\u95ee\u4e86\u4ed6\u7684\u770b\u6cd5\uff0c\u4ee5\u4e0b\u662f\u4ed6\u5bf9\u6b64\u95ee\u9898\u7684\u4f1a\u6709\uff08\u4ece\u6bdb\u6587\u7ffb\u8bd1\u8fc7\u6765\u7684\uff09\u3002\u4ee5\u4e0a\u3002<!--more--><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>-SS<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Author:<\/strong>\u00a0Edrard (RU server)<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u539f\u4f5c\u8005\uff1aEdrard\uff08\u6bdb\u670d\u7684\uff09\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>My personal opinion is, that the skill MM is definitely not needed. For one: there are far fewer good players than bad players, in a ratio of somewhere around 1 to 10 and really good players roughly 1 to 100. When it comes to the range from bad up to above average players, the distribution of such players is linear, therefore every time you enter a battle, according to the probability theory, you\u2019ll have basically roughly the same teams. Of course, there is a chance that you will have a team full of bad players and the opponent will have a team full of above average players, but if you take an infinite number of battles, then the amount of such battles will be equal to the kind where you have the above average team and the opponent has noobs. In general, the distribution is always the same. Since the amount of good players is still large enough, the probability of having at least one on your team to be quite high, but let\u2019s have a look at an example.<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u6211\u4e2a\u4eba\u7684\u89c2\u70b9\u662f\uff0c\u6c34\u5e73\u5206\u623f\u8fd9\u4e1c\u897f\u6839\u672c\u6ca1\u6709\u5fc5\u8981\u3002\u9996\u5148\uff1a\u9ad8\u624b\u7684\u6570\u91cf\u8981\u6bd4\u83dc\u9e1f\u7684\u6570\u91cf\u5c11\u592a\u591a\u4e86\uff0c\u6bd4\u4f8b\u5927\u6982\u662f1:10\u7684\u6837\u5b50\u3002\u800c\u771f\u5927\u795e\u7684\u6bd4\u4f8b\u5927\u6982\u57281:100\u3002\u800c\u4ece\u83dc\u9e1f\u5230\u4e00\u822c\u4eba\u7684\u73a9\u5bb6\u6570\u91cf\u5206\u5e03\u4e0a\u662f\u5448\u4e00\u4e2a\u7ebf\u6027\u5206\u5e03\u7684\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u4f60\u6bcf\u6b21\u8fdb\u5165\u6218\u6597\u7684\u65f6\u5019\uff0c\u6839\u636e\u6982\u7387\u5b66\u7406\u8bba\uff0c\u4f60\u6bcf\u6b21\u9047\u5230\u7684\u961f\u4f0d\u90fd\u662f\u5dee\u4e0d\u591a\u7684\u3002\u5f53\u7136\u4e86\uff0c\u540c\u6837\u4f60\u8fd8\u6709\u53ef\u80fd\u4f1a\u9047\u5230\u81ea\u5df1\u961f\u5168\u90fd\u662f\u83dc\u9e1f\uff0c\u800c\u5bf9\u9762\u961f\u4f0d\u5168\u90fd\u662f\u9ad8\u624b\u73a9\u5bb6\u7684\u60c5\u51b5\u3002\u4f46\u662f\u5982\u679c\u7528\u65e0\u9650\u91cf\u7684\u573a\u6b21\u6765\u8003\u8651\u7684\u8bdd\uff0c\u8fd9\u79cd\u6218\u6597\u7684\u6570\u91cf\u5c31\u548c\u4f60\u4eec\u961f\u5168\u662f\u9ad8\u73a9\uff0c\u800c\u5bf9\u9762\u961f\u4f0d\u5168\u662f\u83dc\u9e1f\u7684\u6218\u6597\u6570\u91cf\u5dee\u4e0d\u591a\u3002\u603b\u7684\u6765\u8bf4\uff0c\u5206\u5e03\u90fd\u662f\u4e00\u6837\u7684\u3002\u9274\u4e8e\u9ad8\u624b\u7684\u73a9\u5bb6\u6570\u91cf\u8fd8\u662f\u591f\u5927\uff0c \u8ba9\u4f60\u7684\u961f\u4f0d\u4e2d\u5b58\u5728\u4e00\u540d\u9ad8\u624b\u7684\u51e0\u7387\u8fd8\u662f\u86ee\u5927\u7684\uff0c\u4f46\u662f\u5148\u6765\u770b\u4e2a\u6817\u5b50\u3002<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s say we have 1000 players. Of them, 100 are really bad, 800 are bad up to above average, 90 are good and 10 are unicums. Let\u2019s have a look at the probability of having the entire team consisting of only one of those groups:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u6bd4\u5982\u8bf4\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u67091000\u4eba\u3002\u5176\u4e2d100\u4eba\u662f\u70c2\u5230\u4e0d\u884c\u7684\u90a3\u79cd\uff0c800\u4eba\u5904\u4e8e\u83dc\u9e1f~\u4e00\u822c\u4eba\u7684\u533a\u95f4\u5185\uff0c90\u4e2a\u9ad8\u73a9\uff0c10\u4e2a\u771f\u5927\u795e\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u6765\u770b\u4e00\u4e0b\u6574\u4e2a\u961f\u4f0d\u4e2d\u53ea\u5305\u542b\u4e00\u79cd\u73a9\u5bb6\u7684\u60c5\u51b5\u7684\u51e0\u7387\uff1a\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; for the bad up to above average: 3.4 percent<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5168\u90fd\u662f\u83dc\u9e1f~\u4e00\u822c\u4eba: 3.4%<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; for the really bad players: 3.68e-14 percent<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5168\u90fd\u662f\u70c2\u5230\u4e0d\u884c\u7684\u73a9\u5bb6\uff1a3.68e -14 %\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; for the good players: 6.05\u0435-15 percent<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5168\u90fd\u662f\u9ad8\u73a9\uff1a6.50 e-15 %<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; for unicums: 6.52\u0435-32 percent<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5168\u90fd\u662f\u5927\u795e\uff1a6.52e-32%\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Based on mathematical expectation, the most probable group you will get is:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u4ece\u6570\u5b66\u65b9\u9762\u7684\u8003\u8651\u6765\u770b\uff0c\u4f60\u6700\u6709\u53ef\u80fd\u9047\u5230\u7684\u961f\u4f0d\u662f\u8fd9\u6837\u7684\uff1a\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>1,5 very bad + 12 bad up to above average + 1.35 above average + 0.15 unicum<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">1.5\u4e2a\u83dc\u903c\uff0c12\u4e2a\u83dc\u9e1f~\u4e00\u822c\u4eba+1.35\u4e2a\u9ad8\u73a9+0.15\u4e2a\u5927\u795e<\/span><\/p>\n<p>It turns out that the unicum ends up in something like 1 of 7 battles and so, most of the time, you will play in an absolutely standard team. This is where the platoons come in \u2013 they can break the pattern by bringing 3 players of above average skill (or, heaven forbid, unicums) into the battle \u2013 that\u2019s why Wargaming decided not to implement any platoons of more than 3 players. Let\u2019s see what is the chance of 3 unicums ending up in one battle randomly:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u8fd9\u6837\u770b\u7684\u8bdd\uff0c\u6bcf7\u573a\u5c31\u80fd\u591f\u78b0\u4e0a\u4e00\u4e2a\u5927\u795e\u7684\u6837\u5b50\uff0c\u9664\u6b64\u4e4b\u5916\u7684\u65f6\u95f4\u4f60\u90fd\u4f1a\u5728\u4e00\u4e2a\u7edd\u5bf9\u6807\u51c6\u7684\u961f\u4f0d\u4e2d\u8fdb\u884c\u6e38\u620f\u3002\u8fd9\u5c31\u662f\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u51fa\u73b0\u4e86\u7ec4\u961f\u2014\u53ef\u4ee5\u6253\u7834\u8fd9\u4e2a\u89c4\u5f8b\uff0c\u628a3\u4e2a\u8d85\u8fc7\u4e00\u822c\u4eba\u7684\u73a9\u5bb6\uff08\u6216\u8005\u5929\u7406\u4e0d\u5bb9\u7684\u4e09\u5927\u795e\uff09\u5e26\u5165\u4e00\u573a\u6218\u6597\u2014\u8fd9\u5c31\u662f\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48WG\u51b3\u5b9a\u4e0d\u8981\u5b9e\u88c5\u8d85\u8fc73\u4eba\u73a9\u5bb6\u7ec4\u961f\u7684\u673a\u5236\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u6765\u770b\u770b\u5982\u679c\u4e09\u4e2a\u5927\u795e\u5728\u968f\u673a\u6218\u6597\u4e2d\u80fd\u78b0\u5230\u4e00\u8d77\u7684\u6982\u7387\u662f\u591a\u5c11\uff1a<\/span><\/p>\n<p>c(10,3)\/c(1000,3) = 0.000072216505082237 %<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5bf9\u4e8e\u9ad8\u73a9\u6765\u8bf4\uff0c\u6982\u7387\u662f<\/span><br \/>\nc(90,3)\/c(1000,3) = 0.07069995847551 %<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5bf9\u4e8e\u83dc\u903c\u6765\u8bf4\uff0c\u6982\u7387\u662f<\/span><br \/>\nc(100,3)\/c(1000,3) = 0.097311740598314%<\/p>\n<p>But since the platoons don\u2019t always have to consist of 3 unicums, it turns out that if you consider an infinite number of games, you will meet the same amount of good platoons and bad platoons. The most important conclusion however is that when you are platooning with very good players, you constantly, in 100 percent of cases, drop into battles the probability of which to happen is under normal circumstances 0.097311740598314%<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u4f46\u662f\u9274\u4e8e\u7ec4\u961f\u7684\u73a9\u5bb6\u5e76\u4e0d\u603b\u662f\u4e09\u4e2a\u5927\u795e\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u4ece\u65e0\u9650\u7684\u6e38\u620f\u5c40\u6570\u4e0a\u6765\u8003\u8651\u7684\u8bdd\uff0c\u4f60\u78b0\u5230\u9ad8\u73a9\u7ec4\u961f\u548c\u83dc\u903c\u7ec4\u961f\u7684\u6570\u91cf\u662f\u4e00\u6837\u7684\u3002\u4f46\u662f\u6700\u91cd\u8981\u7684\u7ed3\u8bba\u662f\uff0c\u5f53\u4f60\u548c\u5927\u795e\u7ec4\u961f\u5728\u4e00\u8d77\u7684\u65f6\u5019\uff0c\u4f60\u4f1a\u4e00\u76f4\uff0c100%\u7684\u51e0\u7387\u8fdb\u5165\u5230\u5728\u5e38\u89c4\u60c5\u51b5\u4e0b\u53ea\u67090.097311740598314%\u51e0\u7387\u624d\u4f1a\u51fa\u73b0\u7684\u6218\u6597\u4e2d\u3002<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Also, if you yourself are a good player, you are knowingly putting yourself in a better position, as your team will always have at least one good player. The same thing goes for bad players. And since some players have higher winrate than others \u2013 it\u2019s all on them \ud83d\ude42<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u8fd8\u6709\uff0c\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u81ea\u5df1\u5c31\u662f\u9ad8\u73a9\u7684\u8bdd\uff0c\u4f60\u5176\u5b9e\u5c31\u662f\u6545\u610f\u628a\u81ea\u5df1\u653e\u5728\u4e86\u4e00\u4e2a\u6709\u5229\u7684\u4f4d\u7f6e\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u4f60\u4eec\u961f\u4f0d\u4e2d\u80af\u5b9a\u4f1a\u6709\u4e00\u540d\u9ad8\u73a9\u4fdd\u5e95\u3002\u83dc\u903c\u4e5f\u662f\u540c\u6837\u3002\u9274\u4e8e\u90e8\u5206\u73a9\u5bb6\u6bd4\u5176\u4ed6\u4eba\u7684\u80dc\u7387\u8981\u9ad8\u2014\u5168\u9760\u4ed6\u4eec\u4e86:)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Mathematically expected team for an above average player:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5bf9\u4e8e\u4e00\u540d\u9ad8\u73a9\u7684\u961f\u4f0d\u6784\u6210\u7684\u6570\u5b66\u671f\u671b\u503c\uff1a<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n1.4014014 bad + 11.2112112 bad up to above average + 2.247247246 good + 0.14014014 unicum<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">1.4014014\u4e2a\u83dc\u903c+11.2112112\u4e2a\u83dc\u9e1f~\u4e00\u822c\u4eba+2.247247246\u4e2a\u9ad8\u73a9+0.14014014\u4e2a\u5927\u795e<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Mathematically expected team for a bad player:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u5bf9\u4e8e\u4e00\u540d\u83dc\u903c\u7684\u961f\u4f0d\u6784\u6210\u7684\u6570\u5b66\u671f\u671b\u503c\uff1a\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>2.387387386 bad + 11.2112112 bad up to above average + 1.26126 good + 0.14014014 unicum<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">2.387387386\u4e2a\u83dc\u903c+11.2112112\u4e2a\u83dc\u9e1f~\u4e00\u822c\u4eba+1.26126\u4e2a\u9ad8\u73a9+0.14014014\u4e2a\u5927\u795e\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>Edrard submitted this with a note that unfortunately, he doesn\u2019t have time to explain or answer any questions, but I think the underlying message is clear.<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Edrard\u56de\u590d\u7684\u65f6\u5019\u7279\u610f\u8bf4\u660e\u7531\u4e8e\u5404\u79cd\u539f\u56e0\uff0c\u4ed6\u6ca1\u529e\u6cd5\u89e3\u91ca\/\u56de\u7b54\u4efb\u4f55\u95ee\u9898\uff0c\u4f46\u662f\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u4ed6\u8981\u8868\u8fbe\u7684\u610f\u601d\u5df2\u7ecf\u5f88\u660e\u663e\u4e86\u3002\u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Source:http:\/\/ftr.wot-news.com\/2014\/10\/0 &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/?p=10707\">\u7ee7\u7eed\u9605\u8bfb <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[20],"class_list":["post-10707","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-world-of-tank","tag-20"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10707","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=10707"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10707\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=10707"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=10707"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xvm.garphy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=10707"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}